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81 - REDEFINE: Owning A Business Is Hard, Think Big, Risk Big
What if embracing your vulnerabilities could redefine your path in business? Our latest episode unpacks the memorable Redefine Event, where we joined like-minded business owners to share candid discussions about the industry's triumphs and setbacks. This isn't your typical conference recap—it's an honest exploration of how a space of openness and mutual understanding can empower us to confront and manage the universal struggles we face in our professional journeys. We left the event with fresh perspectives on reinforcing what works and bravely questioning what doesn't, a testament to the power of community and connection.
Our personal stories underscore how communities can act as powerful support systems during challenging times, emphasizing mutual growth and resilience as pivotal business strategies.
Lastly, we delve into the transformative power of risk-taking and self-reflection, inspired by the remarkable Sally. Her probing questions challenge us to align our actions with our values, pushing us beyond our comfort zones. We also share our journey with public speaking, exploring the adrenaline rush of shedding fears and connecting authentically with an audience. With Bec's lively energy and insights into making business both fun and fearless, we explore how embracing risk can lead to exceptional growth.
Join us as we reflect on these valuable lessons and gear up to finish the year with empowerment and excitement for what's ahead.
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Yahoo. All right, welcome back to the Unfiltered Health Podcast today, and Steph and I are diving into an exciting recap of the Redefine event we attended over the weekend. It was a day jam-packed with inspirational content, insights, struggles, really important takeaways as business owners that we can't wait to share with you today, and we're going to just share maybe some key lessons, our thoughts, the things that we took away, the moments that maybe truly shifted our perspectives in this episode, and just a reflection of what made this event so impactful. So I think let's get into it. Let's maybe explain what the Redefine event was, because I know for myself, as an audience member, I was not really sure what I was going to be getting myself into. So how would you describe it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that was kind of like the whole point, like it was a little bit of like not knowing what to expect and then just getting hit with a lot of raw, open conversations around what's going on in the industry changes in the industry, how people are feeling, normalizing, talking about highs and lows, and just like an overall different.
Speaker 2:I guess the main takeaway was you were going to walk out with all this new insight, material perspective on things in your business or a direction in your business where you're like, yeah, I've got some changes. Or like, wow, the thing that I was stuck on before, I'm going to push harder for this. Or you know the changes that I want to make or the leap that I wanted to take that I was too scared to like hell, yes, I'm going to push harder for this. Or you know the changes that I want to make or the leap that I wanted to take, but I was too scared to like hell, yes, I'm doing this. But I think that was kind of like what redefine was about. It was like redefining your purpose in the industry and your path and actually making some changes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's actually how I felt in the event Like I felt like I didn't know what I was going to expect, but once everyone started speaking, every speaker just made either me feel like, a I'm reinforcing the good things I'm doing or, b highlighting the shit you need to get really honest about and rip it apart, like don't even be afraid to just tear it apart. You know this does not work. Why am I doing it like this?
Speaker 2:yeah, lots of questioning, lots of questioning, lots of reflecting. It was yeah it was.
Speaker 2:You're a bit speechless, so valuable yeah, so you're a bit speechless in terms of like it's hard to wrap your brain around it because it was so valuable. Yeah, so you're a bit speechless in terms of like it's hard to wrap your brain around it because it was just there was so much to take from it and it's like you need a moment to sit and just like brain dump a whole bunch of shit because it was, it was great, it was so great I still feel like like we just said this off air, but we both like wanting to still reflect upon the event and really deep, deep dive into what we went into because it was so intense.
Speaker 1:Like I feel like over the weekend. I got really emotional yesterday and then I've just been feeling emotional, but like in a good way, like yeah, highlighting the wins, highlighting the shit that I've struggled with and just owning it and going like that didn't fucking work and like all the things that I want to work on as well, just like it's. It's actually really empowering and being in an environment with all other business owners who all do various different things some are similar, some are different I think it just made you made me feel more normal. I know business yes, like.
Speaker 1:I know other business practitioners find business hard too, but when you're in an environment with high level people who are doing what you want to do and you inspire to do, it's like no matter what you do, no matter how much money you make, no matter what industry you're in, no matter what your business is about, the concept of business is still the same. You still have to push on, you still have to go through struggles.
Speaker 2:There's going to be a lot of struggles and you have to fucking just own it every single level and deal with it and it wasn't, um, it wasn't, you know, the type of event where you've just got guest speakers and they're telling you, like, what to do and you're sitting there and you're kind of listening. It was very much like it was almost like a big discussion. Yeah, it was lots of sharing and lots of reflecting and so fast-paced. Everyone. It felt like everyone was on board and everyone was in this like big conversation together and we're all discussing the same things and it was just. It was a really, really cool event to, I agree be amongst like-minded people and be able to share thoughts, feelings, directions with each other in a space that was very open.
Speaker 1:Didn't feel judgy yeah, I don't know about you, but in conferences or like events like this, so like I've been to a couple and it feels a bit like you just sit in the back, you kind of don't want to say anything.
Speaker 1:It's feels really intimidating to be around other people and actually put your hand up and give an example and, like I know other presenters in the past that I've seen who weren't at this presentation, they have maybe pulled someone out and pulled them apart, and I am really conscious when I go to these events. I don't want to be pulled apart in front of an audience.
Speaker 1:So I do choose my like times where I might put my hand up, but I felt like when I did put my hand up at this event or other people did, it was reciprocated with love and empathy. It wasn't reciprocated. It's like well, why are you doing that shit for? It wasn't that kind of putting you down, bullying you in front of an audience. It was really like well, what's our questions? Like let's get real, let's fucking talk about it Like we're all going through it, and that made it feel so open and just relaxed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. So what are, I guess, some takeaways that you found. Should we discuss takeaways? Should we discuss what we took from each speaker? How do you want to play this?
Speaker 1:Okay, that's actually good. Maybe let's start with like in order of each speaker. Yeah, do you want to do that way? Okay, yeah. So, first off, ro started, and she started with her spiel, I guess, of business and her maybe takeaways in running a business. Yeah, do you want to start with what you got from that?
Speaker 2:one of my um, one of the biggest takeaways was very much the embrace, the fast embrace, the fast pace of the business less perfection, more rolling with the punches. I think sometimes we get so caught up in things needing to be perfect before launching or putting out a post, or you know it needs to look pretty or it needs to look a certain way, rather than hey, just get it out there, just get it out there, just push it, just roll with it. Don't feel like you need to be present and have hey, just get it out there, just get it out there, just push it, just roll with it. Don't feel like you need to be present or have like the perfect time to sit and reflect or the perfect time to sit and plan or the perfect piece of content, like sometimes you just got to get in there, get it out, make the changes. It doesn't always need to be perfect yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1:I've heard this in the past and I think it's important to not sit on the perfection aspect of content, especially content. She did also speak about the speed of like business and like when the lead comes in. When you get this, when someone asks you a question, like you just need to be on it and it's a little bit reactive in that way. But in the sense when you are running a question, like you just need to be on it and it's a little bit reactive in that way. But in the sense when you are running a business, the faster you can move and not worry about being perfect, the usually the better your business will roll. Because if you do sit on that perfection, it just there's such a lag time. It's too much lag. I think for me it was actually her decisions are 60, 40. Yes, I feel like when she was, I think for me it was actually her decisions are 60, 40.
Speaker 1:Yes, I feel like when she was saying you know, the longer you're in business, the more you calculate your risks, and I was like, fuck yeah, when I first started running a business, I went to a mentorship and he was like, yeah, it's going to cost 20 grand. And I was like, oh, that's a lot of money, we can do a payment plan. And I was like, oh, um, that's a lot of money, we can do a payment plan. And I was like, okay, fine. And then I went home and I was like I just did this and my parents, the people around me that I was with at that time, they were like what are you doing? That's a lot of money. And I'm like I don't know, I'm just gonna make it work. Like he seems like he's legit, he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2:Like I'm investing in it.
Speaker 1:It was the best fucking risk I took and and still to this day, like it's one of the most impactful things I've done for business, right. But now I'm just like, really calculated, I take my time. I need to be like either 90%, sure, rather than like 100% or 50%. It's so annoying, but at the same time, when she was saying 60-40, I was like okay, like it doesn't need to be perfect either, like I can feel not 100%, tapped into this idea and just try it at least.
Speaker 2:That's so funny because that was my reflection as well. Three years ago, when I moved into this space, I moved in with zero clients, so I was leaving two separate places that I was working with or working at, and I moved into this space knowing that I would not have. I've had two people follow me, but I knew that I was literally starting from scratch and it was such a risk. I had to now pay rent from the start. I had to fit out a massive room. I spent a lot of money on the room and I was like shit, I literally have no clients and there are gonna be like weeks or months at the start where I'm probably gonna have like one or two clients, yeah, and I was like I don't care, I don't care, I'm taking the risk, I'm doing it, whereas now, if I was to do that again, I feel like I would be a little bit more like oh, I don't know yeah, definitely so it is.
Speaker 2:I think we just, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, at the start, it's the difference is, I think, maybe, I think maybe, where our head goes is we start to have more responsibilities yeah, I feel like it does amount to that because, like, when you end up having a team, when you end up being in a, in a place that you're comfortable with, it's also like the comfortability factor, your comfort zone, some of the things that ethan was talking about, I guess. Like that list of stuff, like you, just it's the fears get bigger yeah, yeah, and there's, there's more.
Speaker 1:Like you feel like you're risking more because you're more settled, so you end up taking less risk yeah I don't know. Plus, moving into a gym space is so freaking hectic. So I do feel like there needs to be some like actual consequential plan to do that part.
Speaker 2:You definitely need to be you definitely need to be sensible with, and I think that's what comes down to the. You know the whole 60, 40, it's still calculated. You're still not just like going all in and not even thinking about things, but you know, you're just. You might just not be 100 ready. Yeah yeah we also um oh sorry, oh no go.
Speaker 2:I was going to say the second takeaway I got from Ro was or the third, I guess personal evolution will impact business evolution and I used to very much separate the two when I first started out because I thought that they were completely separate and didn't really need to be blended. And while I still hold that a little bit, I do definitely believe that as you grow personally, you know all your highs and lows personally. They will then leak into your business if you don't be careful 100 I felt that.
Speaker 1:I felt that I think the last 18 months or two years maybe actually now three like my personal things that I was struggling with then leaked into business, but then I had also business problems, so then they also leaked into personal problems and then just created this whole mental health debilitating, anxiety, run insecure. All my decisions were just like. I just couldn't make a decision. Like whenever you can't make a decision, I think what I've realized it's probably a red flag. If you know in your heart what you don't want to do, that's good, but when you don't know what you don't want to do and what you also want to do but don't know how to get out of your shit, it actually just you can't evolve, you are so stagnant and stuck, so I resonate with that so much.
Speaker 1:Should we go to Cara as well?
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's move into Cara.
Speaker 1:Cara's was so great. Yeah what. I met Cara when I was in a club at 18 get out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we go way back that's amazing she's actually been on the pod before we changed the pod to the unfiltered health podcast, so she and I met because it was such friends of friends who were in a club, but she was also in the industry anyway. So listening to her talk has always been quite um fruitful, because she always comes in with this very compassionate, empathetic, human-centered focus and I always love her talks because she comes from the heart and she's also just fucking real. She's not gonna bullshit anything and if she does if she doesn't understand like she'll ask questions rather than just being like someone else in the industry might be like yeah, I get, I get, I get, I get it like she's just really awesome human what did I take?
Speaker 1:away from hers. I think the book like that. Book recommendation the kim scott writer oh yes, I really want to read that um absolutely but just like in a business sense, I think what I took away was just like being aware that everyone is different and, yes, utilize someone's individual magic differently, like the way you present yourself might not necessarily how someone else does, but what's their magic and what's their beautiful uniqueness that they can bring to the table too, that can help your business grow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and very much. I love the whole like meet them halfway when it comes to their values and what they want versus your values and what you want. They don't always have to be exactly like you, they don't always have to align, but be able to meet them halfway where you can get value from them and they can get value from you, and that's how it's gonna work best.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you also have to have the right people around you who want to do that too yes, exactly you know, as business owners who employ staff, it's actually really hard to make sure everyone's always happy. So you have to have these real honest conversations, sometimes be like hey, what's going on? Like let's have a chat now, I can feel something shifted. Or you have to just get it done, rather than holding on to it and like becoming resentful. I think that's what I really absolutely.
Speaker 2:yeah, and I, um, I loved when she was talking about leadership and what leadership means and it was, you know, like I think she put up a stat, was like 90% of leadership is care, communication and having hard conversations, and it resonated so much with me because that's very much how I approach client care it's always communicating them on their level, making them feel safe, making them feel heard and then having tough conversations with them when necessary. Yeah, and I always used to think leadership or being a leader was like this big boss telling you what to do and when to do it, and you know someone who's overly confident, and whereas now I'm starting to think of leadership a lot differently, and so I really like that reflection yeah, I can relate to that too.
Speaker 1:I think in the industry like mentors can really shape how you approach leadership too. So you've had mentors in the past who are quite hardcore and like maybe not as empathetic. Then you do end up brushing a little bit of that. Sorry, you do end up wearing a little bit of that hat sometimes but, I think what I'm also understanding is that you're working with humans and you need to be respectful that these people are also going through their own stuff too that's right you've got to have these conversations so you can actually facilitate change rather than just trying to be like you're working for me.
Speaker 1:You need to do a better job. You're not doing that. It's like hold on. What's actually going on? How can I support you?
Speaker 2:absolutely. I, yeah, I loved that so much in terms of staff and moving forward and, I guess, how to approach them and how to work with them. I very much enjoyed her talk on that because I took a lot away from it definitely yeah, I think my team did too as well.
Speaker 1:It was good. It was really good. Um. Sammy's was next. His was about community and culture, and I love the energy he came in with it. It was so strong. So like in your face and then so empowering, and I loved one of his quotes. He said he's like you cannot light yourself on fire to keep others warm.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes that.
Speaker 1:I think I've been doing that, like I was doing that too. I was doing that too much, too too much. And I think when you're building a community like ladies that lift, the community has always been there and I don't know what it is, but the community has always been there. And when shit has gotten banned in my personal life which is reflecting back on Rose stuff the community still hasn't not been thriving because they have each other.
Speaker 1:But when the owner's not a hundred percent. Feeling good like the community brings you up, but it can leak sometimes and you can't just keep doing and doing, and doing, and giving, and giving, and giving everything and not give anything for yourself. So I think for me, when I've've been had really personal shit going on, I think, um, the community has actually lit me on fire to keep me warm, because there's been times where I'm like I'm literally gonna burst into flames yeah, it's um, it's such a, it's such a powerful thing building a community.
Speaker 2:and you know I don't work because my space is so small in terms of having multiple people in the one area. You know I don't necessarily have that, but I still think of my clients as this little community, because I support them and we support each other individually. Yeah, yeah, which I think is really nice, and I very much experienced that at my previous job when I was working with a lot of athletes the community vibe of the members that would come in. You know, we had the same, or I had the same regular members that would come in on the mornings that I was running classes and you know, the vibe was there, the energy was there. It was like they were so excited to come to 6.30 AM sessions even though it was so early. It was because of the energy, it was because of the people around them, it was because of, you know, the other members that are all supporting each other.
Speaker 2:And then even in the afternoons it was just like big community vibes. And it was funny because when I left, a lot of those clients messaged and had explained that they had also left too because I wasn't there anymore, oh wow. And they're like it's not just, it's not the same without you, like the vibes just so different. And I that was kind of like the first time where I like properly understood what community was all about, in terms of like they don't necessarily just come for the training I mean, of course you've got to be good at what you do in terms of programming but they were staying for the connection as well, for the relationships that you had built with them.
Speaker 1:yeah, so that was really nice. It's deep and that's why, like I'm, I think I talk a lot about community as well, because when you're in a community that holds you accountable as well and you also have a really good time, it's really hard to leave and like that's why school is so impactful. You might not love learning unfortunately for everyone or like retaining information, you know sometimes that's what it is, but the friends you make, the friendships that you develop, the hardships you overcome together, like that's what makes school like that little bit better because you end up having.
Speaker 1:You know it's not the same for everyone. I can't necessarily say I had the best time in school, but there were elements and times in school where you know what my friends are, the ones who got me through yeah yeah, you had your people you had, you had your community yeah, so next, who did we have?
Speaker 2:uh, jamie, jamie, oh you start you do this, jamie was great um so so relatable um I think one of the big there were a few takeaways actually from Jamie's um one is that you know we're all human, definitely we all have feelings and we all struggle sometimes with comparison and imposter syndrome and sometimes we get a little bit lost in terms of like knowing what we're doing in the direction and that that is okay.
Speaker 2:I think that was one of the biggest takeaways. It's kind of when you have a look at social media, a lot of the time you only see the good stuff that people pop up, the successes, how well the business is doing. You don't always see the raw, honest hardship of if someone's struggling or if someone gets a little bit lost, and that's not necessarily to say like, oh, I want to see that because I want to see people struggle. It's not that at all, it's more so. It was nice to see because it's relatable and it makes you feel like you're not alone when you think that way as well and that it is normal and people do experience that and that not everyone has their shit together. You know 24, 7 all the time, and business successes or running a business is very much like there will be high and low periods and you've kind of just got to ride the wave and just normalize it and be okay with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's funny because he his presentation was centered around how your external worlds and your internal world do relate to each other as well, but he came in with the presence of like feeling like a fraud. So the reason why I think we probably took the same, similar concepts away about this imposter syndrome is because he came in feeling like an imposter being there as well, because he's going through his own personal shit right now, which you could see and I could feel that and I was like, oh, this guy, like he's going through I know what that feels like and it's gonna it's gonna feel better eventually, but shit, it hurts and it sucks 100%.
Speaker 1:But his presentation had like SWOT analysis. It had questions about your packaging. It had questions about your business is a web and like what you need to reflect on, on what parts of the web to strengthen. Like he had all this juicy stuff but so many great things I think we both took.
Speaker 1:I got a few things from him in terms of business, but I think I also felt like just listening to him talk about him feeling like a fraud. And he also said something and I think you'll agree like we're both quite, quite um academic, we're both like to have a skill set, we both really believe in having a strong skill set and utilizing that to have a really strong business and that's how we think we. We both intertwined our businesses collectively to be at a forefront where we can just educate and empower and like have conviction in our services. But at the back end, it was also this feeling of like sometimes you're just not in it, sometimes you just don't feel good about things that you're doing. 100%. I really felt for him on the day, yeah yeah, and I think a lot of people.
Speaker 2:I actually reached out to him today because Jamie was one of the first mentorships I did during COVID and he really opened my lens to a lot of things. I was pre-COVID working two different places, not for myself, but was kind of you know, um, flirting with the idea of, oh, could I go out and do something of my own? And he really opened my lens to business model and knowing your numbers and I have profit first on my book Shalky he mentioned that and that was the first time that I actually learned how to understand my income, understand my numbers and be able to self-organize money and just to get a better overall understanding of it. Um, and he also was one of the first to help me integrate more of a movement-based exercise approach in my practice and with clients and how to understand it better to then communicate it better with clients there you go um.
Speaker 2:So I I reached out to him today and, like express, basically express that and shared um how how much he has impacted, uh, my growth and how he was that kind of big first stepping stone to owning my own business and structuring my treatments and style treatment style to the, to the way it is now.
Speaker 2:Basically um, yeah, that's amazing yeah, because I I think it. I think it's really nice to hear sometimes and I think, yeah, sometimes you do get in your own head about you know if you're feeling lost and the direction you're going, and I think it's really nice to get feedback from other people being like no, hey, like you've made an impact, like remember that.
Speaker 2:Don't lose sight of that. Sometimes, when you're in that tunnel vision, you're thinking all about the negative stuff and how lost you are, but you often forget about how far you've come and the difference that you've made for people. It's hard.
Speaker 1:I think it's a nice reminder. When you're in the middle of it, you're not really thinking about it once you're out of it you're like shit, like all right, we're good again, but it takes a long time to get good again.
Speaker 2:Okay, next up we have and I'm just looking for a reminder of sally sal yes, oh, okay, you or me oh, you go for it, because I know we spoke about this a bit off air, but you go for it we both loved her.
Speaker 1:We spoke about this already like I just she made me feel so, called out, so seen as well. I felt like emotional towards like my own journey and like hearing her speak about her own cons, pros, cons, sorry, prons, cons, um in life and overcoming her stuff and just hearing her story I was just really like she's badass, like, and she also came in with like this, like if I trigger you, good, and I was like oh, okay, and I just dance energy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, just like here for it, like let's go. And I just I loved what she had to say. I loved the questions. She asked us to try get a little bit deeper and when she asked us a question about uh, where are you? Like what do you want your community to like? No, to take notice of you for. Like what do you want to?
Speaker 1:be known for and I just kind of sat on this question. I was like, fuck, what do I want to be known for? Like I didn't actually like know, and then I sat there, wrote some things down. I was like, okay, now I do know. And then she said something like what does the next evolution of your expression look like? And I was like, oh my god, these are heavy questions. Like, okay, it took me like a minute to go. I, I want this, yeah, I, I want to work towards this. And everyone was writing things and I was like shit, like I'm, am I?
Speaker 2:the same. I was stumped. I was like I need to sit on this longer, I can't do this. Just one minute, yes.
Speaker 1:I just there was like moments where she was thing I was the same, I was stumped, I was like I need to sit on this longer, I can't do this. Just one minute. Yes, I just there was like moments where she was speaking and I was like I just, I just give me five minutes, like I'm not ready, I don't know I was like I want to have that conviction where I was like I can just I can do it in 30 seconds, I'll do it.
Speaker 1:But I think, at the end of the day, like listening to her talk about her personal brand was, I think, a reason as well. I was like why have I been hiding myself? Because I don't really. I have not shared half of the stuff that I've felt and gone through on Instagram and I'm not going to share about 50%, but the 50% that I will share has probably already ruffled feathers. So I think, at the end of the day, like you need to be a little bit vulnerable online within means. But yeah, it's, yeah, it was amazing. What did you get?
Speaker 2:It was very much similar to you in terms of, like those deep questions on you know, what do you want your clients to feel when they hear your name, the presence you want to leave, and then the I am confident until yeah, yeah, yeah. I really liked that one. It was like you know where do you feel good, when are your strengths, but then where does it stop?
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, that like opens a can of worms, because it's like okay such a can of worms. Okay, well, like, how do I work on this? Like what am I gonna do, what am I gonna try? What am like? Am I is it just because of like fear of judgment and do I just like have to?
Speaker 2:stack that off.
Speaker 1:I think I've also felt that with Instagram, like I feel judged by certain people and there's reasons why, like I, sometimes I think I just wish I could, like, take them off my following list, but at the same time, like it's, it's just weird, like who cares? At the end of the day, they might also really receive what you're talking about, well, but they also, like I just feel like I hate lurkers, but you just everyone's a lurker at the end of the day, so you just need to get over it. Yep, um and i's.
Speaker 1:For me there's like that fear of judgment from those people not anyone else really, but anyway, she was really boss, energy and I definitely think anyone who doesn't know her needs to know her, and I would like to also work with her privately because I just feel like she was just awesome yeah, I think she gets you to.
Speaker 2:She gets you to just, um, what's the word like, dissect yourself deep off to really reflect on what, where are you not showing up and why? And kind of like really calls you out on it, but not in a way to like put you down. It's more in a way to like bring you up and build you up. It's like hey, you're strong here, why are you not showcasing that more? Why are you not, you know, more confident in this area? Why are you not pushing that and what's holding you back?
Speaker 2:yeah, that was kind of like the vibe yeah, why are you fighting? That was a vibe I got like what's holding you back? Yeah, what's holding you back? What are you not doing enough of? What are you fearing? What are you shying away from? Yes, where?
Speaker 1:could you be?
Speaker 2:better.
Speaker 1:I loved that.
Speaker 2:So, and it was funny because one of her questions were what are you currently doing now? That goes like that doesn't align with what you preach to your clients, and I laughed because I was like I've been, I've been nursing a hip injury for the past. Like I won't even call it an injury. I'll call it an hip injury for the past. Like I won't even call it an injury, I'll call it an annoying pain for the past like six months. And instead of actually doing something about it, I've just been like ignoring it, being like, eh, it'll go away, it'll go away, and my job is literally to get people out of pain and to help people.
Speaker 1:Shit, steph, I'm not doing it. I don't even know that. Oh my God, that's bad. That is bad. You naughty girl, very naughty girl. It's like if it doesn't bother you enough.
Speaker 2:then you're like ah, it's fine, it's fine, but it will accumulate eventually.
Speaker 1:You know that. Yeah, that's right. Wow, don't say that on the podcast you need to like shh, we've been preaching pain and all this oh, I'm holding myself accountable now. Okay, good, letting everyone know that anyone who heard this and had heard steph say that you need to hold her accountable and be like. I heard what you said you.
Speaker 2:You owe me some hip exercises I think it is common for clinicians I don't know if it's the same with personal trainers A hundred percent. They always get this saying of like clinicians are the worst patients because they don't look after themselves.
Speaker 1:There's the same, or they don't do what I say, don't do what I do, a hundred percent. This exists for a reason.
Speaker 2:That's me, but that's also wrong. Like I say, it's me, but then at the same, the same time, I'm like that's what I need to fix, because if you're advocating something, if you're preaching something, if you're giving all this information to your clients in terms of, like, regulating your nervous system and looking after yourself and making sure your body is as optimal as possible, well, hey, you've got to be able to be doing the same well, I think there's also that thing, like people who read a lot of self-help books typically are not very good at implementing that self-help stuff.
Speaker 1:So I do think there is. Everyone goes through stress in their life. Everyone has something that they're working on. We're not perfect, we're not, we're just humans, but you know, we got called out, so we do have some things to work on.
Speaker 2:That's right, okay, moving on to ethan yeah, ethan was next I wasn't sure what I was gonna get this preso me either. And, um, my like big takeaway was stop playing it so damn safe, take bigger risks. That was literally like my takeaway from that was my biggest takeaway. It was like you I'm gonna drop an f-bomb here, but you're playing it too fucking safe. Step, take a fucking risk. That was literally like. That's what I got out of it and that's what I wrote down. I didn't write anything else down except for that.
Speaker 1:Really, I wrote heaps down surprisingly, because I wasn't sure, like I don't even know really, who he was, until he started speaking about all this stuff, and I was like Jesus, like he has tested and trialled a lot of shit, and like he's a business person, like he loves creating businesses. He just goes for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he just goes for it, whereas our business is like one thing that we really really love it's our baby and we just keep working on that one one thing keep chipping away, chipping away, whereas he's just tried a million, million, million, million million things and just keeps going and going, expanding. And I really liked his presentation. I really really liked it, and he said something about where is it understanding what failure is to you? Yeah, and like recognizing what it is that you're scared of and like what could, what?
Speaker 1:what is seriously the worst that could happen versus what a success and defining those things yeah it's like oh, I really don't think I've done that, I've not really defined failure.
Speaker 1:I think in my mind personally and I'm sure for you, like you think of the failures and you think, oh, this could happen and what if that happens, but don't really write it pen to paper, don't really express it. And I feel like, um, after his preso, he said something. He said something to do with like a little bit of legalities and he's like just just fucking, you know, bury it. And I was like, okay, I'm not going, not gonna do anything illegal. But when he said that, I was like just take, just take fucking risks, like what's the worst that can happen, seriously, what could happen. Like in the morning, actually, fyi, in the morning, before we went to the presentation, us girls went for a little bit of a walk to get a coffee or something to eat. We saw this girl in her like mazda 2, reverse into a rubbish bin truck collector and she hit and run like she dodged she drove off.
Speaker 1:It was the funniest slash, wildest experience. Us girls are standing there going what just fucking happened? Right, no, he wasn't driving after her. Like there's, there's probably cameras on his car. Who knows his company car. He's probably like, yeah, whatever this happens, her car probably had more damage than truck her car.
Speaker 2:The rear end was like yeah, yeah, yeah, her face, oh my god.
Speaker 1:And she went for it, he floored it like, not just like, oh, what did I do? Like bang, reverse back into, drive gone anyway. So. So what I'm saying is after his presentation and that thing in the morning, I was like, yeah, just take risks, like who's gonna really chase? Not that risk maybe not that, like you know, I definitely wouldn't hit and run.
Speaker 2:No, no but yes, in this situation, in this situation, she is out taking a risk. Yeah, and the rubbish truck is the fear, and it's like, just do it run away from the fear, right?
Speaker 1:exactly, don't look back. Instinct like you fucked up. Oh fuck, just fight or flight oh my god, run with intent run towards, run towards it with intent, oh god that's quite funny. Yeah, no, he was good, um, and I loved what he said about rating your like. What would be a business from a one star to like a 10 star?
Speaker 2:yeah, that was cool. I like that strategy. I like that strategy as well.
Speaker 1:Definitely, then we had your presentation yes, we did have that's right. I loved your presentation. You were so eloquent and you were so. It wasn't even scripted for me because I just know you and, like when you were speaking, I was sitting there like a proud mom going oh my god she's so good, like she's. You're just reeling off things so naturally and like I, in my opinion, steph, like you, did a really really good job.
Speaker 1:Your presentation, as you said as well, was a little bit more client-centered, modeled centered and yeah like changing the model, changing the typical system of being a myotherapist, and I think that was inspiring, because there were other myotherapists in the room and I know, just working with you one-on-one, how amazing you are and how thorough you are and how, yeah, massage is so fucking good, it feels great, but it doesn't always have to look like that as a myotherapist, and so my takeaway was just like for me, from knowing you, it was like you can keep going and you can keep breaking that ceiling, because it's definitely something that a lot of physios, chiropractors, myotherapists as we all spoke about they're not doing a good job, they're really not.
Speaker 1:We get clients both of us have spoken about this week in week out where they've banged up someone and they haven't done it, given any exercises, referred a little bit further, got in contact with anyone else to get more information like they're doing a shit job and when it comes to you, I think, like you, you have got so much potential thank you, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:It was good for me, for me personally being very transparent. It was, um, it was. I was very nervous leading into it. I was out of my usual outfit, which is leggings, and you're sexy. Therefore you look so good all the time corporate heels wearing corporate, so it's very much out of my comfort zone.
Speaker 2:I, um, if through high school, I have always been terrified of public speaking and that's one of the things, couldn't tell, that's one of the things that I've been working on, um, and so I, um, I did give myself a pat on the back for just doing it and freestyling.
Speaker 2:There was a lot of freestyle, there was a lot of things that I had planned to say and just did not say it because I went off, I guess, like the vibe of the audience and lost my bearings a little bit and forgot what a shoulder was when I was trying to explain things. But it was me stepping out of my comfort zone and me leaning into the fear rather than running away from it, and when bro first asked me to be part of it, she literally gave me nothing. She was like, hey, I want to run an event, eight speakers, maybe like between 40 to 80 people. You're're down and I was like sure and my initial thought was like run. But whenever I have that thought, I've now taught myself you need to do this, regardless of how uncomfortable it feels. You're doing it Because if you don't do it, you're not going to change.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was inspiring and I think watching you I was like God, like this is. It was just so humbling to see you up there because you looked really comfortable. Albae, you might think I was overthinking, I didn't get everything I wanted to say. You really, you really look like a natural up there. You were calm, cool and collected, Steph Like. I couldn't see a bit of stress or your pace was perfect, you weren't speed talking, you were just like so in your like typical comfortable Steph maybe a little bit reserved but like.
Speaker 2:I was a little bit reserved. I can only say that because I know you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny when, um, when Prue was like you've got five minutes left, I was like fuck, I really thought that I was gonna like be 30 minutes and then done like I thought I was gonna have all this time and I was like, oh crap, I really talk a lot. We both do. That's why we have a podcast.
Speaker 2:That's why we have a podcast and the last last one was Beck. Yes, beck's I loved because for me, like so, her big talk was on scaling and I guess the biggest takeaway for me is like scaling doesn't always mean expansion. That was like you always think of scaling in terms of like, we have to offer more, we have to do more, we have to offer more, we have to do more, we have to, um, grow more, but it doesn't always mean that and that was kind of like one of my big takeaways.
Speaker 1:looking at scaling a little bit different that's so interesting for me and I really like that I got a different one from from beck. I got more of like you just go all in yeah, like that was her energy.
Speaker 1:That's always been her energy, which is I freaking love it, I love it every time I've met her it's always been in passing and we only have like so many minutes or seconds to see each other. But every time I see her, I always fucking love being around her, because I feel, because she's young and she's done this young I feel like Jesus, you, you keep taking risks and that's something part of me that's like slowed down and I've all. We always know this. Like every level of business, you're gonna get a new problem. But I loved how she said it different level, different devil and I was like that's right, yes, 100%, and it's like you just gotta go, and she's been one.
Speaker 2:That's just like let's just do this, let's go all in. What have we got to lose?
Speaker 1:and it's always been mad energy yeah, she's got a lot of energy and her her energy is like fuck it, let's just do it. And that's was literally on her presentation. Even the things that she wrote on a presentation like yolo brothers or something, and and I was like this is very her, like very her, but it brings a sense of like she owns it and she will do it. And she has a lot of fun doing it too, and I think that's something to say.
Speaker 1:Business can be really fun, and I think that's why it works with her. And you know, something that we can both take away is just have more fucking fun, be a little bit more free, take away these rules you're the boss anyway at the end of the day, like it's just going to come back to you so we wear the responsibility anyway exactly, so just have fun with it. She was good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a. It was a good finish. I definitely, because it was. It was good energy. It made you feel excited. It made you feel excited, it made you feel on and it is. It's like, it's what you make of it. If you're going to sit in the fear and you're going to sit in the feeling reluctant and you're going to sit in the hesitancy, well then that's going to be your energy. If you're going to go with the stuff, it let's do it approach. I'm not thinking about the fear stuff it let's do it approach. I'm not thinking about the fear, I'm just leaning in. Go, go, go, let's just do this, let's have fun with it. Then that's the vibe that you're going to bring to the table.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like she does that with everything she does, she's an all-in girl. Yeah, yeah, I love that. Well, that's all the speakers. Then we had the panel at the end. I took a few things from the panel. Do you want to talk about the panel too, or for?
Speaker 2:you. I um, I think most of the stuff we've for me, I think most of the stuff in the panel was, I guess, just re-highlighted in the sense of you know, any thought that we've thought of everyone else has also thought about. Like we're not allowing our thoughts when we're feeling a little bit down, we need to quickly pull ourselves back up, flip the switch and not let us think that way. Have fun with business, take risks, be okay with taking the risks and just ride the wave.
Speaker 1:That pretty much sums it up. That sums it up perfectly. I did write a few things as well. That was that was definitely a good sum up, yeah, uh. So when's the next one? Oh, I don't know. Well, we'll have to get you into another speaking event, because we just got to definitely skills. For sure, we should do a live potty. Yeah, audience led this time because no one submitted any audience questions. Yes, last time we did, it was just compliments and I don't want any, we don't want compliments, we want topics we want topics?
Speaker 1:oh no, no, keep giving us compliments, we need it yeah, we love, we love the compliments um, okay, well, look, I think that sums up the day.
Speaker 1:I think sums up the day we. We're also going to maybe briefly touch on how we'd apply this information, but I do think we've pretty much summed up every person, every topic, every feeling and the things that I think highlighted for us, and I guess maybe that's a little bit inside of what we would be applying. Yeah, let's do it more, let's speak more, let's unpack that. We have some short and sweet episodes to cover as well next week, but, in terms of the year ahead, keep running full steam, everyone. We're almost there.
Speaker 1:We might be feeling a little bit tired, a little bit under the pump, maybe feeling like it's crunch time and you've got to submit some last minute things, but the end of the year will be good. It's always a nice time to reflect. So we hope you can take away some of the things that we've spoken about today and utilize them for your own sense of conviction and self-empowerment and progress. Do put yourself in uncomfortable situations because, like Steph, you can learn a lot from doing these things, and maybe just going in a little bit unknown, like myself, in an audience, not sure what's going to come up, but I took away a lot. So here's to that I say, and that's it.
Speaker 1:Okay, right, well, we'll say goodbye at least that's all folks that's all. Thanks, everyone appreciate you.